I was so excited when I put these on because they aren't too tight and only cover the parts of your foot where the shoe would be (unlike smaller liners that feel tight by the end of the day). They are a great hybrid between an ankle sock and a shoe liner. Unfortunately, when I tried them with a shoe the heel overflows above the shoe leaving an extra bunch of fabric (there are some pictures left by other customers that show this). It's like the sock have a lower and an upper heel. No matter how much I tried to reposition the sock or scoot it down I couldn't get it work without gushing over the shoe. I'm so bummed because I really liked the socks.